Leather for flogger

topic posted Fri, February 22, 2008 - 8:13 AM by  Biglesby
I am thinking of making my own floggers, and was looking for a substitute for deer skin. Would lambskin Glove Leather wear out too fast? I found a bunch of cheap leather at Discount Fabric here in SF, near 17th and Mission
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Biglesby
SF Bay Area
  • Re: Leather for flogger

    Fri, February 22, 2008 - 9:44 AM
    I was thinking of going to that store today to see if they might have more leather, but couldn't find any Discount Fabric anywhere around there. The closest one is on 4th Street. Is that the store you're referring to? Or could the one at 17th/Mission be called something else? Thanks.
    • Re: Leather for flogger

      Fri, February 22, 2008 - 11:03 AM
      www.discountfabrics-sf.com/specials.nxg

      and

      Fabric Outlet
      2109 Mission St
      San Francisco, CA 94110
      Phone: (415) 552-4525

      there are a couple along 101 as well
      • Re: Leather for flogger

        Fri, February 22, 2008 - 11:15 AM
        Thanks, yes, I used that link to find there WASN'T a Discount Fabrics on 17/Mission. That's why I'm trying to find out what store had the ubercheap leather. I appreciate the Fabric Outlet info, but would like to confirm where that original location of the leather might be. I live fur away from the Mission, and would prefer knowing the place, rather than pokin' about a multitude. You don't happen to know if Fabric Outlet was the cited source? Thx...
      • Re: Leather for flogger

        Fri, February 22, 2008 - 11:18 AM
        I think there is one more on Clement street in SF..

        the couple I have seen along 101 deal mainly in upolstrey and drapery..

        Sal Bressi Fabrics Co.
        1504 Bryant Street, 2nd Fl.
        San Francisco, CA 94113
        cross street: Alameda
        district: Potrero

  • Re: Leather for flogger

    Fri, February 22, 2008 - 10:56 AM
    Inconsistant thickness isn't always a bad trait in leather for a flogger. Leather is thickest along the spine and get thinner towards the belly. If you cut your tails so that the thickest part of the leather is at the handle end they will gain a very usefull whiplike action. I cut my flogger tails with a taper to amplify this effect.

    The issue you'll likely run into using lambskin this way is size. Most lambskins I've found are way too small to use that way. When you're looking at a skin, keep in mind that you'll have to cut it in half along the spine and go from that straight line cut to the belly. Is that going to be long enough for the flogger you want to build? A more important downside for lambskin as a flogger leather is it just doesn't have much mass. I've built a couple lambskin floggers and they were pretty much pure sensation toys.

    While you're checking your leather for size, also look at the meat side very closely for areas that have been cut thinner or gouged with a knife as the animal was skinned. If you have any weak spots like that and you're not able to cut around them, they'll bite you in the ass.

    Another option you may want to consider is deertanned cowhide. It's nearly as soft, thicker than most deer skins, you can buy much larger skins, and it's a bit cheaper.
  • Re: Leather for flogger

    Fri, February 22, 2008 - 11:40 AM
    Lambskin is awfully light for a flogger. It's going to be pretty much a warm up toy.

    There is a leather store in Hayward. I can't remember the name of it, but I think they will sell small amounts to the general public. And they carry a lot of colors and types. Cowhide is your best bet for an all purpose flogger. Different leathers have different properties and remember, once you cut it into tails, it's going to feel lighter.

    Generally, I cut the leather so that the heavier ends are at the bottom. This keeps them from flying all over the place when you "throw" the flogger. You do want the tails landing as a cohesive unit, rather than spread out all over the place.

    Domina
    • Re: Leather for flogger

      Fri, February 22, 2008 - 11:51 AM
      Don't you guys have a Leather Factory in the bay area? That's where I go for everything I don't source from tanneries. Get a wholesale account with them and they're very reasonable.

      Interesting idea with making the ends heavier. I'll give that a try next time I do a big slow flogger. I have a very heavy bias towards the long handled light and fast floggers that I prefer to use. I probably haven't put near enough effort into developing my bigger floggers.
      • Re: Leather for flogger

        Fri, February 22, 2008 - 12:22 PM
        That's the name of the place in Hayward. The Leather Factory. They're a bit pricey if you're used to buying wholesale, but you don't have to buy huge pieces of leather. Places like Sals Leather or the Hide House in Napa are really for professional flogger makers. Unless you find something in the scrap bin, you have to buy pretty big pieces. So the Leather Factory is great. And they have a good selection.

        Domina
        • Re: Leather for flogger

          Fri, February 22, 2008 - 1:04 PM
          Leather Factory does offer wholesale memberships. Hell, just tell them you're in the SCA and you'll get a discount. They have the wholesale club that you can buy a membership for, and that's a pretty good discount. Or, if you have a business and a tax ID number, you get even better deals.

          I don't know that you'll find the exact same selection there as I find in my local TLF. But here they have a table piled high with leftover uphulstery sides for 40$ each. Mostly they're pigmented chrome tanned. But I frequently find really nice oil tanned cow sides there.
          • Re: Leather for flogger

            Fri, February 22, 2008 - 2:35 PM
            ABSOLUTELY Nick! Although....with the management change here in Union City the SCA thing doesn't really cut it anymore but the wholesale club membership is only $40 a year and really pays off rather quickly.
            • Re: Leather for flogger

              Fri, February 22, 2008 - 4:29 PM
              What a shame. If not for the prices I got claiming to be SCA, I don't think I'd have got seriously into flogger building. I'm probably about done doing it professionaly anyway.

              Something to keep in mind is that thicker leathers are more expensive, floggers made from them use less square footage. So for those working on a budget, it's not as much more expensive to work with moose, elk, or even bufallo as most people believe.

              And since store names are popping up, if you're going to do any volume of leather work, it'll be worth your while to find tanneries local to you. The prices tend to be a bit lower. But more important,, you get a much bigger selection. Especially worth looking into is any available selection of a grade leather, more $ per foot, but you can end up with far less scrap. I buy mostly a grade anymore because the price works out better when you factor in waste.
              • Re: Leather for flogger

                Fri, February 22, 2008 - 9:37 PM
                Thank you all sooooo much for your replies. Yes, the place I was looking was

                Fabric Outlet
                2109 Mission Street

                . . . and I found some lamb-size skins that were $12-15, plus a bunch of other leather at 50% off. I figured it was a good place to buy supplies for my first project, and that a warm up toy would also be a good idea for my first project. The movie in my head was me avoiding a situation like, "Oh, sorry darling, were the rusty fish hooks and broken glass a little too much?". The basic idea I was going for was something like a beginner's deerskin flipcat, flipcat being here:

                www.details.com/whips/flipcatjrlg.jpg

                More of a sexy warm up toy and exercise in braiding. Lamb skin is small and hard to braid to a good length, I think I'll go back to and look for some deer-treated leather, and see what I can do.

                Thanks to you all. I'm schnockerd and will provie more details later, just wanted to show my appreciation for your posts, I learned alot

                Biglesby

                P.S. For you Vegans, Fabric Outlet has 100 feet of cotton webbing for $20, that's kick ass!!
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                  Re: Leather for flogger

                  Mon, February 25, 2008 - 7:30 AM
                  I myself use rubber. Its much easier to acquire and at a much lower price. Its very sturdy and (in my opinion) does the job just a little bit better than leather.
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                    Re: Leather for flogger

                    Mon, February 25, 2008 - 9:32 PM
                    i used to use rubber a lot more and switched to leather because i found it was much easier to find cheap scraps & used clothes. where do you get your rubber from?

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